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	<title>Comments on: Adversarial Dialogue: &#8220;I love you, stupid&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://noveldog.com/2009/11/06/adversarial-dialogue-i-love-you-stupid/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m doing a post on this tomorrow and just found your post and linked to it! Great job. I love your example too. Very funny. :-)
This looks like a really cool blog and I can&#039;t wait to look around. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m doing a post on this tomorrow and just found your post and linked to it! Great job. I love your example too. Very funny. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
This looks like a really cool blog and I can&#8217;t wait to look around. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Books That Give Writers an Edge « Novel Dog</title>
		<link>http://noveldog.com/2009/11/06/adversarial-dialogue-i-love-you-stupid/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Books That Give Writers an Edge « Novel Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaaannnnddd... here&#039;s a little more about &lt;em&gt;Impro&lt;/em&gt; and other books surprisingly handy for writers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaaannnnddd&#8230; here&#8217;s a little more about <em>Impro</em> and other books surprisingly handy for writers.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve White</title>
		<link>http://noveldog.com/2009/11/06/adversarial-dialogue-i-love-you-stupid/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jacob,
I&#039;ve read Johnstone&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Impro&lt;/em&gt; -- that&#039;s a great book! (Scuse me while I run upstairs and grab my copy... got it.)  Johnstone starts with improv and acting and goes deep, deep into human psychology -- scary deep.  That&#039;s the part that&#039;s neat for us writers.  There&#039;s insight here as to why the audience will eat up adversarial dialogue.  &#039;Status&#039; (both our own and others&#039;) is something we humans are passionately concerned with.  Seeing status revealed, or challenged, or changed, gets the attention of an audience (viewers/readers) on a caveman level.

Also on Impro:  The inhibitions Johnstone describes in improv actors are exactly (IMO) the inhibitions felt by writers.  We writers are afraid our work will reveal us as &lt;strong&gt;Boring&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;strong&gt;Perverted&lt;/strong&gt;, or &lt;strong&gt;Insane&lt;/strong&gt;.  So we overcompensate by trying to be clever.  Oops.

In general, I love books that have nothing to do with writing that, nonetheless, teach me how to write.  &lt;em&gt;Impro&lt;/em&gt; is at the top of that list, as is Steven Johnson&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Everything Bad is Good for You&lt;/em&gt;, and maybe (haven&#039;t cracked it yet) Gosling&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Snoop&lt;/em&gt;.

Your comment is great -- thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jacob,<br />
I&#8217;ve read Johnstone&#8217;s <em>Impro</em> &#8212; that&#8217;s a great book! (Scuse me while I run upstairs and grab my copy&#8230; got it.)  Johnstone starts with improv and acting and goes deep, deep into human psychology &#8212; scary deep.  That&#8217;s the part that&#8217;s neat for us writers.  There&#8217;s insight here as to why the audience will eat up adversarial dialogue.  &#8216;Status&#8217; (both our own and others&#8217;) is something we humans are passionately concerned with.  Seeing status revealed, or challenged, or changed, gets the attention of an audience (viewers/readers) on a caveman level.</p>
<p>Also on Impro:  The inhibitions Johnstone describes in improv actors are exactly (IMO) the inhibitions felt by writers.  We writers are afraid our work will reveal us as <strong>Boring</strong>, <strong>Perverted</strong>, or <strong>Insane</strong>.  So we overcompensate by trying to be clever.  Oops.</p>
<p>In general, I love books that have nothing to do with writing that, nonetheless, teach me how to write.  <em>Impro</em> is at the top of that list, as is Steven Johnson&#8217;s <em>Everything Bad is Good for You</em>, and maybe (haven&#8217;t cracked it yet) Gosling&#8217;s <em>Snoop</em>.</p>
<p>Your comment is great &#8212; thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://noveldog.com/2009/11/06/adversarial-dialogue-i-love-you-stupid/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve,

I just stumbled upon your blog and i love it! Writing is something that has always interested me. I&#039;ve only looked through a few of your posts, but they&#039;ve been incredibly informative and entertaining.  
Anyway, I wanted to know your thoughts on how Adversarial Dialogue relates to &#039;status&#039; as I understand it from the book &quot;Impro: Improvisation and the Theater&quot; by Keith Johnstone.
Obviously a lot of it has to do with improv and acting, but Johnstone talks about how what he calls &#039;status&#039; is what makes a scene entertaining.  

Characters are always trying to either raise or lower their status in relation to the other characters in the scene. He cites many plays for examples, specifically Waiting for Godot.

In a generalized (and bad) example from me: 
tacking on an insult to the end of an otherwise loving or comforting sentence would be raising your status.  Or saying something mean and then putting YOURSELF down would be lowering the other character&#039;s status and then immediately lowering yours, thereby raising theirs (kind of like softening the blow of the mean line, since you raised their status immediately after).
As you can probably tell, this sounds very much like Adversarial Dialogue to me.  Are they similar? related? Different words for the same concept?

Thank you for your time!
Jacob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve,</p>
<p>I just stumbled upon your blog and i love it! Writing is something that has always interested me. I&#8217;ve only looked through a few of your posts, but they&#8217;ve been incredibly informative and entertaining.<br />
Anyway, I wanted to know your thoughts on how Adversarial Dialogue relates to &#8216;status&#8217; as I understand it from the book &#8220;Impro: Improvisation and the Theater&#8221; by Keith Johnstone.<br />
Obviously a lot of it has to do with improv and acting, but Johnstone talks about how what he calls &#8216;status&#8217; is what makes a scene entertaining.  </p>
<p>Characters are always trying to either raise or lower their status in relation to the other characters in the scene. He cites many plays for examples, specifically Waiting for Godot.</p>
<p>In a generalized (and bad) example from me:<br />
tacking on an insult to the end of an otherwise loving or comforting sentence would be raising your status.  Or saying something mean and then putting YOURSELF down would be lowering the other character&#8217;s status and then immediately lowering yours, thereby raising theirs (kind of like softening the blow of the mean line, since you raised their status immediately after).<br />
As you can probably tell, this sounds very much like Adversarial Dialogue to me.  Are they similar? related? Different words for the same concept?</p>
<p>Thank you for your time!<br />
Jacob</p>
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